geommunity.net ?? / Cache Page creation

Flooder · Post by **Flooder** » Thu 2007-04-12, 13:24:32

It's been a while since I have created a cache, but when I did I liked using the Cache Editor 2.0 that geommunity.net had.

I didn't poke around their site for anything else but they now appear to be dead.

I am sure that the computer nerds all use Front Page or something to create their pages. Even though I probably fit that category I'd rather use something overly simple. What is everyone else doing? Hand coded html? Some other WYSIWYG editor?

Mr.BBD · Post by **Mr.BBD** » Thu 2007-04-12, 14:47:53

HTML? WYSIWYG?

KISS, just fill in the blanks.

ScouterJoe · Post by **ScouterJoe** » Thu 2007-04-12, 15:18:52

Me too, I just fill it in. If I knew how to do more, I might, but I suspect I'm just a bit to lazy for that.

Post by **GizmoGuy411** » Thu 2007-04-12, 15:36:52

Yep... FrontPage here most of the time. It allows me to edit directly in code or in WYSIWYG.

I also used to use Mozilla's Composer, which is now dead. It has been taken over by SeaMonkey Compozer.

Curious that you ask, because I JUST today downloaded the SeaMonkey Suite to check out the Composer part of the suite. http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/

I've been toying with the idea of having an "HTML for Geocachers" class, and would need a free WYSIWYG HTML editor such as Composer for everyone.

Update: The Mozilla Composer and then the SeaMonkey Composer was supplanted by the NVU Editor, and then by the KompoZer HTML Editor.

Flooder · Post by **Flooder** » Thu 2007-04-12, 15:59:31

I'll give Sea Monkey a ride. Hopefully there aren't gender switches like those "horses".

Post by **GizmoGuy411** » Thu 2007-04-12, 16:56:27

Some considerations when using HTML code at GC (geocaching.com) and when using HTML Editor programs.

Don't worry about stripping out the unused HTML Elements created by a WYSIWYG editor. Just copy the entire code and paste it. GC will ignore what it does not want or like.

The <div> and <span> HTML Elements however, can make a mess of your cache page. If your editor can turn them off, do so. If not, review any attributes declared within them and move the attributes to be part of other existing HTML Elements as necessary, before deleting them.

The <embed> HTML Element is now ignored. So no cute background music anymore.

The <iframe> HTML Element is ignored. So no cute scrolling windows inside of windows.

Other HTML Elements that could compromise the security and integrity of the GC site are also ignored.

HTML Tables work fine. Just watch how you define the widths. Try to avoid using pixel values and use percentages instead if you really need to control column/cell widths. If possible, simply remove any width attributes that your editor inserts.

The <body> HTML Element is now entirely ignored by GC, so the previously used "background" attribute will no longer work. Instead, the GC cache edit page now has a place where you can enter the address for a background image. However background images only appear around the very outside edges of a cache page. Interesting special effects such as colorized pages, and watermarks can be included with the cache page itself by enclosing part or all of the cache page within an HTML <table> Element.

Use the bgcolor=" " attribute, for a colorized background or the background=" " attribute for a watermark within tables to create these effects. These attributes can be used within the <table> Element or just with individual table cells (<td> Elements) with most modern browsers. Table attributes and cell can be used together, with cell attributes taking presedence over table attributes. Note that background attributes may fail with some non IE browsers.

Avoid copying HTML code from your existing GC pages back to your editor or to other cache pages, as you can get strange results. Instead, keep a master copy on your own computer, and always work from that copy. (Especially since the CTRL-A (select all), CTRL-C (copy), then CTRL-A (select all), CTRL-P (paste) sequence works so great anyway.)

Because 80%+ users use Microsoft IE, you don't need to worry too much about browser compatibility, except for IE based (such as AOL and MSN) and Mozilla Firefox (including SeaMonkey) browsers.

Also remember that Smart Phone and PDA uses may hate you for using HTML as they may not display your cache pages very well.

Here is a tiny free program that comes in very handy for making things fit right:

Link: JR Screen Ruler

Update: The Mozilla Composer and then the SeaMonkey Composer was supplanted by the NVU Editor, and then by the KompoZer HTML Editor.

yogi57 · Post by **yogi57** » Thu 2007-04-12, 17:09:50

GizmoGuy411 wrote:Yep... FrontPage here most of the time. It allows me to edit directly in code or in WYSIWYG.

I also used to use Mozilla's Composer, which is now dead. It has been taken over by SeaMonkey.

Curious that you ask, because I JUST today downloaded the SeaMonkey Suite to check out the Composer part of the suite. http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/

I've been toying with the idea of having an "HTML for Geocachers" class, and would need a free WYSIWYG HTML editor such as Composer for everyone.

Composer is dead? What shall I do now?

EASYRN1 · Post by **EASYRN1** » Thu 2007-04-12, 21:25:53

Mr. Incredible in Ft. Wayne has some awesome cache pages, he turned me onto to NVU, it's a WYSIWYG, with three layers done up automatically. I tried it several times with some sucess. Just copy and paste into the blanks on the GC page.
here's a link..
http://www.nvu.com/index.php

Post by **GizmoGuy411** » Thu 2007-04-12, 22:57:06

EASYRN1 wrote:Mr. Incredible in Ft. Wayne has some awesome cache pages, he turned me onto to NVU, it's a WYSIWYG, with three layers done up automatically. I tried it several times with some success. Just copy and paste into the blanks on the GC page.
here's a link..
http://www.nvu.com/index.php

While SeaMonkey's Composer also has the various layer views, overall Nvu is much better.

After testing both, I noticed that Nvu looked very familiar. As it turns out, Nvu is based on the original Mozilla Composer. While SeaMonkey adopted Composer as part of their suite, it does not look too much different than the original Mozilla Composer.

Nvu on the other hand adopted only the Composer component and has enhanced it considerably. To add to its credibility, one of the original programmers for Mozilla Composer is now on the Nvu team.

Thanks for the heads-up on this EASY RN! If I ever do a class, Nvu will be my choice for a free WYSIWYG HTML editor.

Update: The Mozilla Composer and then the SeaMonkey Composer was supplanted by the NVU Editor, and then by the KompoZer HTML Editor.

cheechgang · Post by **cheechgang** » Thu 2007-04-12, 23:43:34

GizmoGuy411 wrote: If I ever do a class, Nvu will be my choice for a free WYSIWYG HTML editor.

I know at least one person who would be interested in the class.

EASYRN1 · Post by **EASYRN1** » Thu 2007-04-12, 23:59:53

It is really easy to use. The first layer is whatever you want, font, color, pics, just like a document. Then the 2nd layer is html code, done automatically, and the 3rd is source code, automatically. I just do the page the way I want it, then copy the whole source code page and paste into gc.com page. You do have to replace the images source code location, by either uploading a copy to the page, or specifying a web page for the image. It's an easy way to get some color and range on your page.

ScouterJoe · Post by **ScouterJoe** » Fri 2007-04-13, 00:02:40

cheechgang wrote:
GizmoGuy411 wrote: If I ever do a class, Nvu will be my choice for a free WYSIWYG HTML editor.
I know at least one person who would be interested in the class.

Make that two. Unless of course you were talking about me to start with.

istrum2 · Post by **istrum2** » Sun 2008-10-12, 00:02:09

OK, folks. I'm assuming you're all writing in English here, but I'm not sure. I want to know how to go into my cache homepage and just change the text -- color, font, etc. I don't know what HTML or any of those other things is. Is there a simple answer to a simple question here?!?!? Thanks!!

Post by **GizmoGuy411** » Mon 2008-10-13, 16:47:14

istrum2 wrote:OK, folks. I'm assuming you're all writing in English here, but I'm not sure. I want to know how to go into my cache homepage and just change the text -- color, font, etc. I don't know what HTML or any of those other things is. Is there a simple answer to a simple question here?!?!? Thanks!!

See my reply here: http://nwogeo.org/Forums/viewtopic/p=23445.html#23445
(Link Fixed 10/14/08)

BlackBrownDog · Post by **BlackBrownDog** » Mon 2008-10-13, 17:07:33

Gimzo: I'm coming up that the page you referred to doesn't exist.

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