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What Defines This Group and Who Makes Decisions?

Postby TheBearclaws » Fri 2009-02-27, 22:33:17

What does it mean to say we are a member of NWOGEO right now? Although it may change in the future, at the present time there isn’t any organized leadership. The only thing we have right now is this website serving as a place for us to interact outside of geocaching.com. Gizmoguy has done a great job keeping up with meet and eat and other event postings and the rest of us chime into the forums. I’m appreciative that this site exists but without designated leaders the decision making process is awkward at best. Maybe there is a way to do it though if most of us could agree on a few basic concepts. As an example, the comment has been made that the website isn’t user friendly. It's been proposed that we have a new home page welcoming visitors to the site, stating what we are all about and inviting people to click on links to go further. A link to the forums, a link to the events page (the former home page), a link to a page of recommended ideas regarding hiding and seeking caches etc. Now what happens to this suggestion? At the moment mostly nothing. So what if we agreed on a process to debate this idea for a change and ultimately see it through to completion (for all I know this idea isn’t even feasible, but it would be nice to explore). Would it be logical to discuss as a forum topic for a designated length of time and then take a vote?

I personally think that this website could serve a valuable purpose in helping to educate new cachers in the area by offering various guidance. I would like to be able to refer people here as a GoTo site for local geocaching community happenings as well as advice. We could provide guidance on how to handle travel bugs as it’s common for new cachers to have difficulty getting things right, and other help topics. We already display advice regarding concerns with cemetery caching so we could also have a section dealing with recommendations on how to hide a cache expressing concerns with businesses etc. The ideas being discussed right now in the General Geocaching Topics forum.

I think we could do and offer a lot of things and more people would use the site if we could agree on a format to follow to make decisions in the absence of designated leadership. Keep It Simple too!

I enjoy using the site and appreciate everyone’s contributions whether it be newcomers questions or old timers wit and wisdom .

Does this make sense to anyone?

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Re: What Is This Group and Who Makes Decisions?

Postby cachergirl27 » Sat 2009-02-28, 00:01:48

I understand I'm a newbie to this group, but I really would like to become more involved in NWOGEO and its activities. I was thinking the same as Bearclaws. Giz does a wonderful job maintaining this site, posting the meet & eats and so forth. We really need some type of organization within the organization if we're going to be a successful group. We could do a lot more than just Adopt-A-Highways as a service group.
Not everyone who caches would want to do the service projects, but they wouldn't have to.
I think we should have a group of elected officers that meet two - three times a year along with the steering committee (I'm guessing we still have that) to make sure everything is going in the right direction.
And, yes, I'm willing to be a part of the group, not just throwing out ideas expecting someone else to step up to the plate. :)

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Re: What Defines This Group and Who Makes Decisions?

Postby GizmoGuy411 » Sat 2009-02-28, 04:36:47

The software we use here has the ability to be modified in many ways. However the creation of a more friendly "front end" is not easily accomplished within the software.

We COULD create a simple front end similar to what has been suggested. It would just be a static page that links to some basic information, and of course to main CMS (Contact Management Software) that runs the current site. (DragonFly)

However there are technical issues. For the security of the website, (remember the spammers), many features require registration. Registration must be accomplished from within DragonFly.

So some of the suggestions should not be to hard to accomplish. We would just have to decide what we want available to non-registered visitors vs registered members.

The other issue with making these changes, is that ultimately jslagle is the actual owner of the server that this system runs on. In fact, he is technically even the actual owner of the domain name "NWOGEO.org", as he registered the name and pays for it.

Jason has generously provided a server machine, the Internet access, his software expertise, and payment for our NWOGEO.org domain name, since its existence.

So while I have made a lot of changes here in the past without his blessings, (both unilaterally and by group decision), I would not feel comfortable writing a front end that makes major changes in the server.
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Re: What Is This Group and Who Makes Decisions?

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Re: What Defines This Group and Who Makes Decisions?

Postby TeamMina » Sat 2009-02-28, 14:20:26

Mike and I are pretty active in picking up, moving, and swapping TBs and GCs so we would be more than happy to write the guidelines for travelbugs.
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Re: What Defines This Group and Who Makes Decisions?

Postby cachergirl27 » Sat 2009-02-28, 14:30:22

Actually, the more I got to thinking about this last night I came up with an idea. What if we had a "governing body" like a pres/vp & secretary that are elected, but then also have "delegates" from each defined area (i.e. Defiance area, Toledo area & Findlay area)? NW Ohio has really grown to more than just the Toledo area. If we met once every 2-3 months, it's not much of a committment, and we could get together centrally (BG, Grand Rapids, etc....) to make decisions. Then if something like the questions of how to redesign the webpage, guidelines, etc...comes up, there is a committee where all areas are represented, not just a bunch from Toledo or Findlay. Again, just a thought from a newbie.

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Re: What Defines This Group and Who Makes Decisions?

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Re: What Defines This Group and Who Makes Decisions?

Postby 2trux » Fri 2009-03-06, 13:03:31

My friends at the use a front end to their forums. You might want to take a peek at what their doing.

They've been running a poll for sometime, as to how many people go straight to the forum, as opposed to coming in via the front page (I'm in the latter group). It's currently about 50/50.

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Re: What Defines This Group and Who Makes Decisions?

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Re: What Defines This Group and Who Makes Decisions?

Postby TheBearclaws » Fri 2009-03-06, 17:57:20

Thanks for posting the link 2trux! I'll look around their site more later but it sure appears to be a nice one.

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Re: What Defines This Group and Who Makes Decisions?

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Re: What Defines This Group and Who Makes Decisions?

Postby TheBearclaws » Sat 2009-03-07, 17:42:07

So far Intro Page sounds best to me but here's a couple more names: Main Page, Starting Page, Central Page, Steering Page.

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Re: What Defines This Group and Who Makes Decisions?

Postby 2trux » Sat 2009-03-07, 18:52:48

What about keeping the "home" page, but changing the content?

Move the "News (event calendar)" to an "Calendar" item in the left hand menu, and replace it with static (or nearly static) content.

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