What's your opinion?

GeoFlint13 · Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:22 am Post subject: What's your opinion?

There are a couple of 'geocachers' I know that, in my opinion 'cheat'. Each have their own account and are not a team or a couple, but on occasion when one is out geocaching, he will sign the log for the other person too even though the other one isn't there. I know that they both do this because one of them told me so and he said "I know that kind of defeats the purpose of geocaching because you're not going out and finding it for yourself". Gee, you think? He even asked me if I wanted him to sign my name to a cache's log that he was going to go find. I said "heck no, I never want and won't allow someone to sign my name to a log. I want to see and experience the cache for myself. Plus I've already found that cache". I think that he got the point that I wasn't very happy about what they were doing. I know for a fact that they have done this on at least a couple of my hides and I'm kind of irked by it. I know their handwriting so I can tell who was there and who wasn't plus you know that the person that was actually there signed their name first.

So I was just wondering what other cacher's opinions were on this subject and what would you do as a cache owner if you caught them doing this?
A) It would really tick me off and I would delete both their logs.
B) It would tick me off and I would delete the log for the person that wasn't there.
C) It would bother me and I would contact them and tell them that it's not right.
D) It would bother me, but I'd just let it go.
E) It doesn't bother me and if they want to geocache that way then I don't care.
F) Whatever.

RustyNail09 · Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:44 am Post subject: Re: What's your opinion?

it sounds like these cachers are all about the numbers and not really about the fun. but to each their own and I would just leave it be due to there is no "Physical" proof other than the handwriting samples.

rnw422 · Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 11:08 am Post subject: Re: What's your opinion?

If the numbers are that important, then let them have them. What are they really getting out of it besides a number. The people that actually get out and find them for themselves are the real winners. That's what it about. When my kids and I go caching, we only have one person sign for everyone. That saves time and the hassle of passing the log around so if someone looked at that, they could say "Well Rob signed for everyone so how do we know that all his kids were there?" Your situation is different but I am just looking at it a different angle. I guess someone could question me too.

thunter16148 · Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 11:13 am Post subject: Re: What's your opinion?

Well, I know who you are talking about and my own opinion......oh well, what they going to gain from it? I think you are letting the little things get to you too much my friend. Beating a Dead Horse

GeoFlint13 · Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 11:25 am Post subject: Re: What's your opinion?

rnw422 wrote:

When my kids and I go caching, we only have one person sign for everyone. That saves time and the hassle of passing the log around so if someone looked at that, they could say "Well Rob signed for everyone so how do we know that all his kids were there?" Your situation is different but I am just looking at it a different angle. I guess someone could question me too.

Oh yeah, I don't have a problem with that because you're all there. I went caching with T-Hunter and whoever found the cache signed for both, but at least we were both there.

It looks like maybe I should just let it go and not let it bother me. If they want to be known for geocaching that way then so be it. T-Hunter and TeamMina know who I'm talking about, but I'm not going to name names here.

GeoFlint13 · Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 11:27 am Post subject: Re: What's your opinion?

thunter16148 wrote:

Well, I know who you are talking about and my own opinion......oh well, what they going to gain from it? I think you are letting the little things get to you too much my friend. Beating a Dead Horse

Yeah, to each his own. I guess it's just another 'found it' for the cache anyway.

jhenkel · Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 11:40 am Post subject: Re: What's your opinion?

I can say that whenever we go out caching as a group, we have a designated signer...but we ALL were there & we usually make each person find the cache. I would NEVER tell someone to sign my name on a cache I was not physically present at. I have DNF'd some caches, and then some of the group I was originally went with went back and found it on the 2nd attempt. They did NOT sign my name, that is cheating....just my 2 cents!

yogi57 · Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 12:07 pm Post subject: Re: What's your opinion?

It's not how caches you find but the journey getting there

cheechgang · Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 1:31 pm Post subject: Re: What's your opinion?

I don't have 2 cents

TeamMina · Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:53 pm Post subject: Re: What's your opinion?

We just don't see the point to it. Why cache if you take credit for caches you didn't find. We just don't get it...weird...

GeoFlint13 · Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:56 pm Post subject: Re: What's your opinion?

TeamMina wrote:

We just don't see the point to it. Why cache if you take credit for caches you didn't find. We just don't get it...weird...

Kinda like discovering TB's that you never actually seen in person. LOL!
Oops, now I'm in trouble. Someone is going to want to come after me. With Bat

Mighty_Mo · Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:05 pm Post subject: Re: What's your opinion?

Well it's an indivudual game. If someone cheats they are only cheating themself. If they want to be a fake let then be a fake.

There are no geo-cops. All it can do is give you heartburn,

GeoFlint13 · Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:22 pm Post subject: Re: What's your opinion?

Mighty_Mo wrote:

Well it's an indivudual game. If someone cheats they are only cheating themself. If they want to be a fake let then be a fake.

There are no geo-cops. All it can do is give you heartburn,

I beg to differ! I have a GeoCoin that says so! LOL!!!

TeamMina · Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:51 pm Post subject: Re: What's your opinion?

Sheryl would like to go on record as not actually doing the implied TB thing.
It was suggested, but she agreed you can't truly discover a TB unless have the thing in your hands. Kinda the same deal as this thread's topic, if your involvement with TB is about the numbers!

I hope that gets her off your back, Mr. Flint.

GeoFlint13 · Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:22 pm Post subject: Re: What's your opinion?

TeamMina wrote:

Sheryl would like to go on record as not actually doing the implied TB thing.
It was suggested, but she agreed you can't truly discover a TB unless have the thing in your hands. Kinda the same deal as this thread's topic, if your involvement with TB is about the numbers!

I hope that gets her off your back, Mr. Flint.

Hey, I wasn't pointing fingers (this time) AND I haven't named anyone. Oh well everyone probably thinks I'm a prick now anyway. Shocked

I'm really not 90% of the time. Some times something just gets under my skin and I have to kind of vent. I really wasn't venting, I just wandered what everyone else thought. I hope I haven't made any enemies because I voice my opinion once in a while. Most of you probably think that I'm a blow-hard and should just keep my mouth shut. Sometimes I do...sometimes I don't. That's what freedom of speech is all about baby! Sorry if I offended anyone by spouting off though. I want to thank everyone for their input on this issue! I have called down about it and have let it go. I think Rob said it best, "If they gotta cheat to win, is it really a win?". No and it's their loss, not mine! Thanks all Exclamation